Bolly, this just summarizes the stage that Indiapad is in, when I joined Indiapad, it was a community which was ethical and had moral values. Now there is no such thing existing, all users in the top 20 have proxies or support members voting for them, this is just a harvesting ground for websites and blogs.

I have lost interest and after speaking to a few other members found out that I am not the only one. This mainly comes from the fact that, IndianPad is not as active as before. And his statement that “we don’t have a problem with friends voting for each other” seems to have been taken pretty seriously by all members.

There are not many corrections, there are not many voting down stories or giving them advise. The point of encouraging an user for a good post with a comment seems to be a rarity. All this said and done, Indianpad is going the way of all other social bookmarking sites, it is becoming a field for spammers in disguise of promoting their respective websites with the help of their aides.

Dear Indianpad, please speak, act, react before its too late…

• Your silence on Devils last sting which exposed half of Indiapad was disappointing,
• Your ignoring the top 2 and 3 Ipadders of the year without any comment was very sad.
• There is a lot of fog that needs to be cleared around the iPadder of the Month/Year issues which you do not seem to be clear about.
• There is no follow up on the Moderator function that you activated for 14+ karma users, but we cannot ban a user who has not posted a story.
• What about cross voting and friends voting for each other

Sorry if I am being a bit harsh, but I am sure I can express myself…

Tolly your points are valid, Devil’s last sting post clearly suggested that lot of top users bend the rule and did cross vote a lot, similar with the 6 users i have listed in my post.

a ban of month to such users and their res[ective blogs might help. but then these kind of suggestions have been given in past, all in vain.

TB I’m with you on that. I guess Indianpad is busy with far more important things. Hopefully someday he will fix the problem and hope it doesn’t get too late.

Very well summarized Tolly. You can count me in the list of Ipadders losing interest. Each and every day I ban at least 6-8 spammers and vote down their countless stories, but I don’t see our fellow Ipadders doing the same (voting down). The general section is now getting filled with all “masala”, “hot”, “sexy”, etc. posts and these stories get their share of votes without being moved to the 18+ section. All this is not very encouraging for me.

Guys give your level Best one day It will give result

There is a very simple solution to this which will make it easy for everyone to enjoy Ipad for everyone.

Question is wat should we do if a useless information makes it to the front page of Ipad

Answer Vote

Vote up or down

We have the power to vote

Admin can check if it is right or not

Then stories with the highest votes stay at front page like digg or BestofIndya does

This way it would me more and more difficult to game Ipad and more clean for us to see tht nobody bowls underarm

Any admin Listening plz look at this solution.

No matter how many cartels may there be formed even if they still make it front page we will have to vote for it

Vote it is the only solution

I wonder if Indianpad has also lost all the interest here like all of us..
I am with you tolly. Spammers are on all the sites, but what bothers me is the irrelevant and useless stories coming into front page. Something should be done to counter cross voting.

I have come to the conclusion that banning the user is not enough as they just create another ID. Indianpad needs to give the top users authority to ban the domain so that these spammers really feel the pain…

Also, I agree with bollyhotbabes that voting by everybody (including me) is necessary!

I guess that IP is basically based on meneame , the level of spam on meneame is very low, this is because the users should acquire a minimum karma before they could start posting stories, I suggest IP should also do this.

You can read about meneame’s karma and voting here

I will try to cover the questions raised in the previous comments as well as some areas that we have working on to counter mass-voting to get stories on to the front page.

Your silence on Devils last sting which exposed half of Indianpad was disappointing
The users involved in that sting were warned individually and the sites involved were banned till we received personal assurance from everybody involved. We try not to do this publicly as we go with the assumption that this happened unintentionally.

Your ignoring the top 2 and 3 Ipadders of the year without any comment was very sad
We have always maintained that our users make this site different.

There is a lot of fog that needs to be cleared around the iPadder of the Month/Year issues which you do not seem to be clear about.
The iPadder reward still carries the status but we have revoked the awards that were being given as that was deemed to be a leading cause of spam on the site. Most top users also urged us to stop them as they were being bombarded with requests for votes, etc.

There is no follow up on the Moderator function that you activated for 14+ karma users, but we cannot ban a user who has not posted a story.
Very soon we will be unveiling features that allow the top users to have more granular control over the content (for e.g. remove a single story, remove a single comment, ban users without stories, blacklist a site, etc.

What about cross voting and friends voting for each other
We really cannot control who votes for which story. However, if there is rampant misuse of the vote then the top users will have enough power to put a stop to it.

Something should be done to counter cross voting.
There is no silver bullet for such issues but we are hoping that once we implement the new algorithm the rewards for cross-voting will go down.

Indianpad needs to give the top users authority to ban the domain so that these spammers really feel the pain
Point noted and will be implemented soon

Users should acquire a minimum karma before they can start posting stories
This was implemented some time ago but most users suggested that we remove such restrictions. We now have a condition based approach – Your karma determines how many stories you can post in a given period of time. for e.g. a new user can only post 1-2 stories every hour and they have to be from different sites, etc.

Dear Indianpad, Your response is gold dust to us. Much Appreciated…Thank you

I agree wholeheartedly.

ck_rish: Each time I post a story, I see several questionable posts out there. A lot of times I’ve voted spam and blocked several user ids. I try to not do this too much though because some posts might make sense to someone else – for example I saw something that went like: “How to get the max IT return from IRS in 2008”

Even after devil’s sting operation though, I think the cross-voting continues anyway. Let’s hope IP comes up with something to stop it.

nice one IndianPad!!

Tolly,

I would like to take objection to one of your statements: Now there is no such thing existing, all users in the top 20 have proxies or support members voting for them, this is just a harvesting ground for websites and blogs.

I do not have any blog or website. Till very recently, I had not even enabled ads on my stories. Also, I have never been part of any voting cartel or indulged in cross-voting – ever. This is why it took me more than a full year to get my karma from 6.00 to 14.xx – and believe me, it has been an exhausting climb.

Even today, barely 2 to 3 percent of my submitted stories make it to the front page – since I have no fans who blindly vote for my submissions.

Please take note.

chetanw – dil pe naa le yaar

I am your fan…

I would like to take objection to one of your statements: This is why it took me more than a full year to get my karma from 6.00 to 14.xx

Chetanw, the ones who do it know that they are doing it, the ones suffering without votes and losing interest are the ones i am talking for, ie US.
I am waiting for you join the 14+ group, more than anyone, Apologies if you were offended

Rights to top end users might nnot solve the issue… we need a moderator watching over and taking actions while the top padders can ping him with suggestions and ideas !!

Tolly, Avaksi,

I’m not offended – just wanted to make sure that you don’t think I have a fan following that gets my stories voted up too.

Incidentally, I entered the 14+ league a couple of weeks ago.

I have no fans

Kya yaar… Tumne to ek fan ka dil dukha diya

are dosto peeecha chod do is bechari Indian Pad ka…...
woh kehte hain na ki ek anar 100 beemar

There is no follow up on the Moderator function that you activated for 14+ karma users, but we cannot ban a user who has not posted a story.
Very soon we will be unveiling features that allow the top users to have more granular control over the content (for e.g. remove a single story, remove a single comment, ban users without stories, blacklist a site, etc.

@indianpad – I have one more suggestion with is related to the above comment. The site needs some real “moderator(s)”, who would have the controls that you mentioned. I think the controls that the 14+ karma users have right now is enough for them (to stop the spam posters). The moderator(s) need to be picked by you (through some voting system, where the results should not be displayed publicly). Also, the moderator(s) should work undercover.

Don’t know if our fellow Ipadders would agree on this, but this is just my 2 paise…

God..i can see some members reaching 14 karma who will definitely try to ban me atleast once . Agree 1000% with ck_rish

The moderator(s) need to be picked by you

Agree