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The Top Six features that IndianPad needs (according to me)

1. Negative voters identification

As of today, there is no facility to identify who has voted a story or a comment negatively. You could go and vote a story as lame/irrelevant and not need to identify yourself. Most users on IP are considerate and add a comment to clarify their negative vote. I suggest that when a user votes negative, an auto-comment is added to the story comments automatically. So, if I vote “Lame” for a story, it will cast one negative (Lame) vote as well as automatically add a comment “Sorry, but I think this story is lame and voted accordingly” in my name in the comments section.

2. Weighted karma

As a user repeatedly votes for stories submitted by another user, the karma boost for that user’s stories go on reducing. When User A votes for User B’s story repeatedly, with each vote, the karma boost for User B’s stories reduces. Soon, a stage is reached where User A’s votes have no effect on User B’s stories karma. This will be a great deterrent to cross-voting. See here for a detailed discussion on this approach.

3. Diversity-based karma reduction

There is a section of users who keep posting the same genre of story time and again. This can be discouraged by adding a karma dependency on the variety of sites that are used to submit stories. For example, if a user keeps submitting stories from website www.thakeli.com, the karma for her stories submitted will go on reducing. To prevent smart users from copying stories from www.thakeli.com to their blogs and then submitting them, a new kind of negative vote (say) “Repetitive” will be added to the votes – which will allow users to flag such posts easily.

4. Selective Moderators

Today, the moderators of the site are chosen based on karma. Going forward, I propose that moderators be chosen based on a group of weighted factors such as availability of the person, willingness to perform the moderation, karma, quality of past judgement and actions, approvals from other existing mods etc. This will prevent tainted users from becoming mods based on karma alone.

5. Ability to ban users who haven’t submitted a story

This is something that will ease the load on the website as well as on the users. IndianPad has declared his intention of bringing this in, but we need it more than ever.

6. Temporary User Bans

This is like a user ban facility – only it’s temporary. This feature will be a good idea when the user has been naughty (such as voting for a ton of stories in a few seconds without bothering to read them, more than three “move to adult” votes on stories submitted in one day etc). Under this facility, a user will be deactivated for a specific period of time (say a day) and then automatically reactivated.


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goutami   # goutami
  Posted 196 days ago. (hide)

I suggest that when a user votes negative, an auto-comment is added to the story comments automatically.

Good Idea, Required this option here.

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devilsworkshop   # devilsworkshop
  Posted 196 days ago. (hide)

  • Editing a Story- editing heading . Indianpad can add an auto comment “edited by devilsworkshop”

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 196 days ago. (hide)

Well done once again Chetanw, Since you keep working so hard at this stuff, I hope IP implements some of the stuff you suggested which will definitely help, especially point 4.

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 196 days ago. (hide)

Tolly,

True – that one is dear to my heart as well.

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sahaj_jeopardized   # sahaj_jeopardized
  Posted 196 days ago. (hide)

I didnt like point 4— first right now there are no moderators on IP so it doesnt make sense when you say that karma shouldnt decide being a moderator. And Mr. Indianpad himself was very against the moderators option

Second- IP is a free community, a social bookmarking site- we are not here to force people to SUBMIT a story.

Also negative vote identification- there can be a choice of actually putting the comment automatically.

Then also your weighted karma suggestion- problem here is that- when somebody posts too many stories and usually useful- then that person loses the karma boosts on his story/his profile because after a month he/she’ll realise that many people have voted for me too much apparently and there is no effect on the Karma levels.

this year i havent been frequent here so I may not know many changes, so pardon me for that, but if the moderator stuff is true…then take it from me— I HATE IT! whoever may be the mod but all this governance is shitty!

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 196 days ago. (hide)

@sahaj,

I can see that you’ve been out of touch for a year. Allow me to clarify.

1. It’s been proven time and again that cross voting is rampant on the IP website. Well, in the absence of any concrete action, what we have now is a bunch of cross-voters who have high karma and now (or will soon) have moderating powers. It probably doesn’t bother you, but I am infuriated that something which took me over a year of hard work to achieve can now be achieved by cheating in months (if not weeks). The people who have (very limited) moderator powers are those whose karma is more than 14.00. I happen to be one of those unfortunate privileged.

With whatever super-powers we have, we try and (I hope we do) stop tons of spam and junk. IP would be a terrible place without our efforts to stop the spam.

2. You misunderstood my words ‘Submit a story’. What happens today is that if you consistently keep on submitting stories about purchasing beachfront properties in Timbuktu, you will soon be banned. However, there are some smart people out there who spam in comments. Since they have never submitted anything, there exists no means of stopping them by banning the id. It is to these people that I refer when I say “banning a user who has never submitted a story”.

This suggestion does not refer to users who have not submitted a story.

3. My suggestion about decreasing the repeat-vote karma applies only when user A votes repeatedly for user B’s stories. If users C, D, E, F, G and so on vote for user A’s stories as well, there should be no problem. Again, refer to point 1 in this comment – we want people to achieve something through hard work and quality submissions – not cross-voting.

4. Tell me one good reason why someone would need to keep spending all their time watching what’s happening on one single site all the time. Let’s face it – no one wants to do the thankless job of being a moderator and policing users – I sure don’t. However, as I said in point #1 above, without some amount of policing, the website will be flooded with junk and spam. I do the moderation only because I love the site and want to contribute in keeping it clean. Basically, I try my best to be a moderator – rather than a tyrant.

If Mr. IndianPad was against moderation of the site – I’m sure he has changed his mind now. With the volume of activity on the site, it is definitely impossible for one person to do everything all at once. Make no mistake about it, we definitely need other moderators – ones we can trust

The root cause behind this post is simply that – I’m trying to make the site better and we need better moderation – here are my suggestions. They’re definitely not the only (or perhaps the best) way to go. It’s easy to scoff at them but I have yet to see any constructive ideas – save one.

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spencer_911   # spencer_911
  Posted 195 days ago. (hide)

Agree with all points and especially with having only selected moderators
and about Temporary user ban-Try to disable the users

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goutami   # goutami
  Posted 195 days ago. (hide)

Here daily participate some users :—

  • Only voting purpose.
  • Only for spam comment purpose.

This users not a single post submitted here.

How to Ban this users ?

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 195 days ago. (hide)

That is point #5.

Suggestion: Allow mods a special button on user’s profile page or a new drop-down next to the user’s name on the comment.

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