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Why is IndianPad still the way it used to run ages ago

HI i was/am/might be still a fan and supporter of IndianPad

But the level of IndianPad today needs a makeover

I m not saying tht it should not have cross voting, bad posts , lame posts

I want to emphasize that the layout of the news and front page sucks big time

Sites like Reddit, Digg, have a definitive fanbase around them because of the innovation they have in there structure

I mean look at reddit it looks the same as 4 years ago but few features added to it have made it totally new to the fan base and mind you they are not complaining

Digg has always put user experience ahead of itself even facing sticky situations at times but nonetheless had trust in its users

But sorry to say IndianPad despite a few counter-voting changes and voting weightage has done literally nothing to enhance user experience

The front page is still a dull looking page with same old links from news sites, personal movie blogs, but nothing interesting

Do you really think that votng is the only solution then i believe u are wrong

Use a Fark Like structure to ensure what reaches the front Page and we have like so many moderators now so even 20 stories in a day on front page wud at least make it look reasonable and useful for users

It might sound a bit harsh but i do care where IndianPad is going, It has India in it but to waste such a good idea would be bigger shame

Please give comments or suggest the same to indianpad so that we can have a better IndianPad


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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

please guys give this post a look

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

spencer bhai vote diya thank you

but apna opinion bhi to do

yeh koi vote ke liye thoda na likha hai

this is to know what u ppl really feel

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indianboy   # indianboy
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

Actually Indianpad was very good ages ago and now its more of an celeb-o-holic maniac’s and cross voters paradise who have taken control of it to promote and generate traffic to their own portal. Despite the repeated complaints Indianpad doesn’t care as its evident even till date as the frontpage shows it all.

I really feel Indianpad’s platform is way advanced then most of the Indian social sites and all it requires is more quality content and control that hit the frontpage.

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

thx IB

this is exactly what i feel

even if this page makes it to the front page it will not make a difference

but what i thought was a structure redesign like digg

where u can have 100+ popular stories in a day but only those who have some ppl having a discussion about do really make the front page and stay there

the solution is not by avoiding bad links on front page but having more and more stories and more and more idividual voting and the best could be archived like digg does

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guru   # guru
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

Indian social bookmarking sites are all copy cats no real innovation. IndianPad is the most innovative so we should be thankful for that.

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

i never said tht it is the most original site of the world , i said it was way ahead of others when it started but has failed to evolve like many others have done and for some reason even humsurfer is being shown ahead of IP on alexa

What i wanted to emphasize was on was enhancing user experience if you wanna see same old stories again and again on the front page
then well its ur choice but the purpose of these sites is to give u something new whenever u visit them

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

itna bhi koi advanced portal nahi hai indian pad… its opensource is available or can be tweaked …moreover bookmarking sites are meant for fetching traffic only…

The Best way to stop useless stories hitting the main page is to increase the karma of the story… its 72 I guess… now … I should be increased to 100 …
so then even if there is cross voting to fetch the story a karma of 80 by high end users… Delhi fir bhi door hai bhai…

:-P

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spencer_911   # spencer_911
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

all Indianpad needs to do is to ban couple of users who are responsible for wreaking all the havoc

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devilsworkshop   # devilsworkshop
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

Why i don’t feel like opening Indianpad Today (FYI – I Couldn’t live without it 6 months back)

  • I know there will be no useful discussions/comments
  • I know the story i post will eventually reach the front page – That sucks because it’s just weird and pleasing-voting by GOE (group of 11)
  • Cool veteran users have gone away.
  • My Connection is too slow or is it Indianpad that takes forever to load? :-S

I never wanted to write these comments because i love the site too much but i feel my interest is decreasing and it’s now or never to turn the lights on…

I think if I start fighting again, may be we can get IRP (Internet Rating Points) rise up :-P

itna bhi koi advanced portal nahi hai indian pad… its opensource is available or can be tweaked

Try to create one. It’s not available.

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devilsworkshop   # devilsworkshop
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

Yar – major issue is comments. If you get comments on your stories, you’ll always have butterflies next time to check comments on your story. I am starting a ‘Comment Festival’ tomorrow. Please participate and make a cooler Indianpad v3.0

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guru   # guru
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

which one is innovating?

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

Very interesting discussion here. One of the few that you see sometimes.

In my opinion, the biggest killer on IP is the lack of the Admin to actually do anything quickly. We all know that the IP Admin prefers to keep behind the scenes, but I’d like to have someone who can DO something – and quickly.

All of the problems you have mentioned above are basically tied to Admin Apathy. Time and again, despite so many suggestions/comments/offers of help, the IP Admin has hardly changed much. In the last year, we’ve seen cross-voting, a**-lick voting, crappy stories hit the front page, cartel, cross-voters become admins and a lot more.

And through all of this, the Admin still prefers to keep his/her head in the sand and hope that the problem will just go away.

Nothing has changed on IP – nothing ever will – unless the Admin wakes up.

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

I did post the earlier comment out of frustration. However, I haven’t given up on IP as yet. So, here is a constructive comment that details areas where the site can be improved (and none of them are new):

1. Choosing mods – Not everyone who gets 14.00+ karma should be a moderator
2. Negative Voters Identification – Point out who has voted down a story/comment
3. Weighted Karma – If a user keeps on voting for another user, the karma jump of the story reduces
4. Diversity-based karma reduction – User gets karma depending on the variety of sites posted
5. Ability to ban users who haven’t submitted a story – Self-explanatory
6. Temporary User Bans – Like a user ban facility – only it’s temporary

For details, check out http://www.indianpad.com/story/240462 and http://www.indianpad.com/story/253298 – make sure you go through the comments

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

its opensource is available

they are not talking about the code, they are talking about the content…

or can be tweaked …

try it

moreover bookmarking sites are meant for fetching traffic only…

Yes, if the posts have quality…

The Best way to stop useless stories hitting the main page is to increase the karma of the story… its 72 I guess… now

So…it would take another extra vote, what difference is it going to make…

but apna opinion bhi to do

have been giving, not making much of a difference

Nothing has changed on IP – nothing ever will – unless the Admin wakes up.

Why don’t we try giving a direct message more like what spencer said, banning couple of users, so what is that you suggest chetanw…lets start a story with that sentence…and see the response so the admin will eventually do it as this is a users site… just my thought…

I am starting a ‘Comment Festival’ tomorrow.

very much needed, was thinking about it, its very disappointing to see even good comments being overlooked by users…

I really feel Indianpad’s platform is way advanced then most of the Indian social sites

100% right…

all Indianpad needs to do is to ban couple of users who are responsible for wreaking all the havoc

maybe more than a couple…and keep banning any one who is rigging votes to generate traffic…

this is to know what u ppl really feel

we feel like shit…I felt like that and it led to me starting my own blog as all the content I posted got no response from here what so ever…it was mostly lost in the celeb rubbish, some stories I post are even first time for sites like digg…but no body cares…or appreciate…although the response is not great I am satisfied I have all my stories under my website now…

when I started with my plus blog, I was the only one mostly posting movies and music using working links with no ads on the blogs, now IP is full of rubbish with one topic having at least 25 posts when it comes to movies, music and celbs…maybe I mostly spoke gibberish but I would like to see IP be at the top of all social bookmarking websites…

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

and NiteshBasin, thanks for posting this wonderful post…and bringing out such wonderful comments, goes to show its not only the users with high Karma that care genuinely about Indianpad….

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spencer_911   # spencer_911
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

maybe more than a couple…

trust me, banning just the two of them would do the job, they should have done it long time ago, as most of the new users fall prey to them and join their GOE as it is much more convenient

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

trust me, banning just the two of them would do the job, they should have done it long time ago, as most of the new users fall prey to them and join their GOE as it is much more convenient

yeah, you maybe right…and then the others will just fade away…

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devilsworkshop   # devilsworkshop
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

May be admin can make me admin for a day and i can make some very necessary changes ( :grin: ) which he fears (?) to do so.. :ninja:

Jokes apart, it’s high time we pull things back. We all have worked really hard for Indianpad. Admin, come on, take some harsh and innovative steps. Dont leave it till it’s too late…

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remixconcepts   # remixconcepts
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

Do not mark this comment of mine negative, because I have been seeing that as soon as Indian-Padders view a link on the comment they mark it down, even if the link is necessary.

Anyways By reading you guys comments I feel that you guys are looking IndianPad to become something like 2.0 Propeller, or greatest news sharing site ever in newsVine. But guys, I think this is as far as the site in Indian-Pad can go, because it is on Pligg platform. Now Mixx.com is in my opinion the finest Pligg website ever, devilWorkShop can you do something like that?

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

Try to create one. It’s not available.

bullshit… welcome to world out of wordpress and blogger devil…

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

fall prey to them and join their GOE

quite right… as I joined it according to Indianboy… :-P

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

even digg has a team dedicated to ban websites and users posting hoax stories and duplicate content so why not indianpad…

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

@Tolly,

Why don’t we try giving a direct message more like what spencer said, banning couple of users, so what is that you suggest chetanw…lets start a story with that sentence…and see the response so the admin will eventually do it as this is a users site… just my thought…

Several times, I did think about doing this, No, really, I did want to. However, I stopped myself because it is not fair. Besides, banning the user only means that they return with a new identity (and a grudge).

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spencer_911   # spencer_911
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

even digg has a team dedicated to ban websites and users posting hoax stories and duplicate content so why not indianpad…

all the mods have that power on IP but sadly we can only ban users having karma less than 10

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remixconcepts   # remixconcepts
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

The ban has two sides.

I always refer a situation from my personal experiences. I own remixconcepts.blogspot.com, a hollywood free movies site, and to promote my blog I submitted my links regularly on SideReel.com got away with a lot of stuff, even made pages of movies already made and featured.

Then I found another site nabolister, I did something similar and got banned within 24 hours. After that I joined them with a new identity and never did I ever did anything wrong.

I put out both situations, as leaders it is up to you to decide. But if I was a leader/ or a moderator, I would consider following SideReel, because they make it so professional. professionally leave a messege at the User’s profile and ask him to not do wrong. And keep doing this, because this is the job of moderators and this is why they are made. So if you want to be profession, you may remove stories but never remove a user.

Hope I calrified something. :D

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spencer_911   # spencer_911
  Posted 481 days ago. (hide)

I have only banned users who post links like these http://www.indianpad.com/user/jinnitovuq/history

all the mods here are responsible so don’t tell us how to do our job

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

looks like my 30 minutes of frustration did get something going

but still we are fighting over the same issues again

It is not about banning a few users

It is about seeing wat stuff makes it to front page and is it really worth it

Also remove the karma part bcoz there are few stories which take too long to get to front page and lose there value

like ishmeet’s death or nuclear deal or similar stories

If you have to moderate moderate wat comes to the first page

and make design more updation friendly because there are stale stories on IP whenever i come

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

looks like again the discussion has died down

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bollymms.com   # bollymms.com
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

Here is an Idea : Stop wasting time and try to do some work

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ria   # ria
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

Post was good. But some unwanted comments killed the essence of it.

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

yeah… this is the only difference here… either have a discussion and do nothing as is always done here… this post also… or just comment … and by that I mean comment as your own suggestion to improve or frickle about it or just say anything… then collect quality content from the comments and apply if possible and not use the blockquote to mark someone else’s comments down… taunt them or show off your little knowledge over things that are not required at the instant…

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indianboy   # indianboy
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

I agree with bollymms.com as nothing will happen or change and we are actually wasting our time over it.

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remixconcepts   # remixconcepts
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

ria I hate to point out mistakes but do you even know what essence means. Because my riteous mind says that this post will always remain essence whether bad comments or good comments. This post was to trigger a discussion, if you don’t want a discussion over this then why did you vote. This post and similar posts to this will always remain essential because IndianPad improvement is need to be stressed upon and that is what we are doing here.

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millvartan   # millvartan
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

Yes…..I feel that Indianpad is in dire need of a doze of “Viagara”.
Hope this post would make it realize its need.

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gsunil93   # gsunil93
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

I agree with bollymms.com as nothing will happen or change and we are actually wasting our time over it.

There is always a benefit of having conversation else you might also want try vbharat.com. Pretty new site but great user experience. They do have few quality links posted but site is more in lifehacks, productivity, career etc. then links relating to India.. Best thing is vbharat has history of regular and gradual feature updates. Last time I heard that they are working on personalized news aggregator as another segment of vbharat.com but it’s long time there is no news on that.

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indianpad   # indianpad
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

Thanks for the discussion guys. I agree with many views expressed within the comments and will try to address some of the issues raised above…

Appearance – We have evolved over time and make small changes every couple of weeks to improve the experience for our users. Now, some will find the design boring and bland but the main draw here is the content not the site or its design.

Content – In my opinion, this is the ‘biggest’ issue… The font page gets stale pretty quick but that is due to voting patterns more than anything else. We can put moderators in charge of pushing stories but then IPad will be the same as any other forum or blog.

Cross-Voting – We have been pursuing this diligently and already have many of the features pointed out by chetanw in play. This is one of the reasons new stories on the front page have slowed down over the last couple of weeks. Any users found pushing their stories with cross-votes are disabled and their sites are banned.

Republished Content – There are many stories being posted that just copy content off other sites and don’t even give any credit to the original sites. These sites will be promptly banned from now on.

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sahaj_jeopardized   # sahaj_jeopardized
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

I have a lot to say in this matter.. i havent been here becuase of many reaosns that devil listed..
I had a new year resolution the year, “IPadder of the Month” had been launched, it was becoming an Ipadder of the month once, and being in the top Ipadders of the year.
I was the top Ipadder in one of the daily rankings and also in top 5 for 5 months in row.
After 5 months, I had my chances very good, but then the site became very boring, no replies on comments, or discussions tht mattered.
no sensible discussions with “veterans” around.. avaksi, devil, munnacircuit, gd007, beachbong, milvartan, indianboy, krypton, a little phoren touch with evievontess(she came later btw)..etc…
I remenber being called- the young revolution (or something) by beachbong-Now I’m 2 years older- Indianpad HAS changed a lot, for the good.. but moreover for the BAD.

I loved blockquoting texts and using lot of direct html..(i wanted to qoute lot of thing from above) I dont feel like putting too much effort now.. not much time too, maybe when I start my college next fall.

I think i need to finally rebuke my long sustained stand on moderators, we should start having them. maybe 20 or so so that atleast one moderator is online at a time.
better if IndianPad starts recruiting moderators than just making them with karma. just contact a tech solution company to moderate the site for spam.. the idea is weird but needs a lot of planning and right decisions and recruits before materialising.

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

Republished Content – There are many stories being posted that just copy content off other sites and don’t even give any credit to the original sites. These sites will be promptly banned from now on.

Good Idea.

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krypton   # krypton
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

finally Indianpad moderator back from the dead!!!!

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

Well done Indianpad, I am aware how hard it is to meet the expectations of so many while you are trying to balance out many things…keep going…we trust you…

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remixconcepts   # remixconcepts
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

the republish content kills me too. because blogs simply copy and paste content on their sites and get the benefit of a site like i-pad.

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 480 days ago. (hide)

@IndianPad,

I totally accept the fact that you want to keep your identity a secret. However, believe me, with the pace that the site is moving at – you need some partners to help you improve the site. It could be a council with you as the chair.

Think about it.

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 479 days ago. (hide)

Dear IP, please don’t keep the users in the dark in regards to the changes that are taking place…a blog post would be much appreciated…
Thank you…

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 478 days ago. (hide)

hehe looks like this discussion did get some feedback from the admin

Hell i feel happy

Thank you who all contributed to the discussion

Happy Ipadding

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ArjunSomanchi   # ArjunSomanchi
  Posted 456 days ago. (hide)

more the comments more the information you guys provide people like me, thankfully… keep going at it

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