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I recently brought up this topic and I am glad to see that IPad is a taking a strict stand on this.


We recently made it clear in this comment that we will aggressively monitor and block users and sites engaging in blogspam. However, it seems that a lot of users are confused on what constitutes blogspam.

The definition of blogspam in quite simple and is explained in detail here

  1. Find interesting content somewhere on the Internet
  2. Post that content on your own website
  3. Post the link to your website rather than the original source

So, a story would be blogspam unless you are adding your opinion or insight to a story that you copy/paste from another site.


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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

Glad to know the definition of Blogspam now, I definitely don’t want to fall into that category…will have to work a bit harder from today…not just for Indianpad alone, but not to be called a blogspammer by anyone…

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indianpad   # indianpad
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

We have enabled sites that were recently blocked due to blogspam allegations. However, please note that any links published from now on will be held to this standard.

Mods – Please warn and guide new users before any sites are blocked. This is the right thing to do but we may have to explain this to users who are new to this.

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

wat is ur stand about scans…
i mean magazine scans like maxim vogue etc

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indianpad   # indianpad
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

Scans are a bit different as they are not cut/paste from another site. However, its still common courtesy to give credit and provide links to the original content. For scans, you can link to the actual site of the mag, etc.

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

ok point taken and regarding the dupe controversy

wat do u think about tht ne guideline about identifying dupe content or before voting story as dupe

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beachbong   # beachbong
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

nitesh – It has been a long standing practice on IPad (and most old users follow it) to add new stories as alternate links if a similar story has been posted before…

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gvk   # gvk
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

Domain : desicolours.com unblocked! Thanks

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

then where was this wisdom as it took 64 comments to sort this thing out on the previous debate

I mean more than 3 14+ users were involved in tht discussion and none came up with it at the time of need…

weird

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beachbong   # beachbong
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

nitesh – If the original story is blogspam then the alternate link theory I explained above does not hold.

That is the reason we had that huge discussion and this story clarifies that blogspam should be disabled in lieu of original content…

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

chalo then this is the benchmark from now on

lets see till the next debate/fight/discussion

hope its soon

just luv the fun involved

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indianboy   # indianboy
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

I think they should also provide a proper link back rather then just mention the link source as its very important the original link gets the link back credit and the google juice because a lot of users have already started misusing it as they just mention the source but not give a link. Note: by giving a link back we are showing the search engines that the content has been copied from such n such source which will translate to a better ranking to the original source.

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goutami   # goutami
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

@IB, I agree with you, This is good Idea.

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

As benchmarks are being set, let me ask One Question,

How do we decide if…

Opinion Given or Not Given,
Insight Provided or Not Provided, Or
if it is a Copy/Paste….

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

Copy paste is a copy paste…

You cant make images on your own relevant to the content you copy… if all of it is images… I will just copy 70% images and then leave a link to the original post. That is the max I can do.
what else ?

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beachbong   # beachbong
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

tolly – I will speak for myself and IPad can correct me if I am wrong…

  • If you are collating content from 3-4 sources and crediting them then obviously you are adding value;
  • If you paraphrase a news article (with credit) and add your opinion then thats pretty clear as well;
  • If you cut paste from another site and provide a linkback then this is in the ‘gray area’.
    • If you just copied some pics and left the others then you are recommending the site.
    • On the other hand, if you are copying the whole article then even with a linkback this would be blogspam…

Again this is my opinion and not a rule…

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

This is again into some discussion and then again something else will follow… lol… I think IP should define the rules very clearly so that the mods dont jump to conclusions :-)

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 472 days ago. (hide)

@beachbong

I understand it completely, I am only asking because a general benchmark is immediately required, to monitor this on this large stage is very difficult, as we will have to monitor every user from the beginning, not just the ones who are hitting the front page, that is a concern for me, doesn’t mean i will give it my best shot to keep IP blogspam safe…

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bollymms.com   # bollymms.com
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

Here is what i do,

If i take some images from bollyone, masalababes, or any other source and they make a post after me i will disable my post. (there are link backs to these blogs on my site, and i always change the wording which i think is key factor).

I have done copy paste stuff with bollywood news before, but then i have tried to add some stuff by myself and there have been occasions when i haven’t bothered about it and just added it here which i think was wrong.

Bloggers are small players, they might take away some traffic from big fishes but then they also get them lots of traffic cause they are actually making their pics popular and linking back.

Pics from big fishes have watermarks which i think is enough and there is no need to link back for that pic cause its suggesting by itself that its from that site.

anyways, i would suggest that we take off the 14+karma admin thing and only give power to sensible users and not to people who can come to conclusions by themselves and waste others time.

to be frank indian pad hasn’t grown to its potential cause new users have been made look stupid when they dont know the rules and then they leave.

i know there are some users who want to do padding, but everyone in this world is not free to do padding and most of them would be blog/site owners who would like to get some traffic out of IP ( so what’s wrong with that).

If you like their story just vote it up and if u don’t leave it like that, i don;t understand why people think that if someone posts only from one website he is spammer.

He is not a spammer, he is sending content to indianpad and it could be good content and bad one too. But he is atleast trying, so let him do that.

Tolly’s blog yeeeee.com has like best collection of pics and still some people think its spam or blog spammed, well he works hard to find great collection of pics with credit to orig source. what’s wrong if he wants to make some money out of the time he spends looking for stuff and sharing it with us all.

you don;t do blogging just for the sake of it, you do it cause you enjoy it, you enjoy sharing info with others may it be sex clips :-P, bollywood news, pics, email forwards , music, technology anything.

So don;t discourage people like this, i have been disappointed by some top users in last two days who have done nothing but made a fool out of themselves.

and don’t just look for opportunities to block websites, you all are not kids anymore. Block it if someone doesn’t listen and you have told him few times whats wrong with his stories.

this is a social website not a personal one, so take decisions wisely

happy padding

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bollymms.com   # bollymms.com
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

gosh that was long :-P

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gvk   # gvk
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

good one bollymms :-)

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

Hmm – I kind of like the “value add” idea. Forces poster to use some brain rather than just cut n paste.

@gvk – Should we ban ragalahari.com then? ;) Just kidding

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remixconcepts   # remixconcepts
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

a lot of people do this, including many leaders of IndianPad and chetanw it is my humble request do not bully anyone here because you are as equal to any other member….IndianPad, I, and its users respect you only because you have reached great karma and we all appreciate that, but I really dislike you when you abuse GVK. I think its enough, the guy has gotten the messge, and frankly he not need to get any messege from you, but you have done your part by exposing GVK’s actions here, and that is all anyone can do expect the Admin. So chill everyone, and cheanw its up to u to realize wt i said or not.

see Internet is free, and everything is allowed unless signed something given to us by the administerator while registering to participate. But I-Pad does not do that so we all can go ahead and do what ever we feel like here on I-Pad. If we want this place to be a comforting one then we have to make a definition of it and teach the new users its meaning if they don’t get it, its up to the admin. Period. ALl we have is karma

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remixconcepts   # remixconcepts
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

wow bollymms you are one fucking smart guy…what ever you said is exactly what i was thinking. because videos, and pics do have content as well, and that content is owned by someone, so do we block those websites?

I love reading news, and i submit heck of a lot news and discuss even more, and I was thinking if i enjoy it why not consider making a few bucks out of it, by making a blog and submitting like i submit here on I-Pad, and then submitting my blog’s link instead of newspaper site’s link. Its what most Editors do, and this involves every site except google. And yes when i mean every site, it means aol, yahoo and such

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

This will again start I think… not people will fight over what is blogspam and what is not…

And you cannot accuse of the full blog to be a spam.
IndianPad should only be concerned with the Post added to it and not consider itself the whole internet and declare the full blog as spam. If the post added is refering with some modifications or even a teaser its valid. Story Khatam.

If we talk in your terms then IndianPad is also a WEb SPAM because it publishes articles as they are and no modifications :-P … only a link back… that is what blogs also do… there is a comment form under that too… people do comment… to the same % that they do here… that is what you people above told yeah

So if you dont wana vote a story … please dont. Keep moving. And if you intentionally dont vote for stories even after observing em deserving then you know whats gonna happen… your so called GO11 is going to increase in size and then you will have no space to do anything.

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

Moral of the Story : IndianPad is a Content Management System so it needs people to add content, what you people are doing will not only loose interest of people but also will leave behind 4-5 of you users so SPAM 90% of all its posts from anonymous users. People come here for traffic yeah, TRAFFIC I REPEAT. SO let the Traffic move, dont block it.

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spencer_911   # spencer_911
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

These Mod powers should be given to the sensible users. No anyone and everyone with 14.8 karma. It is for cleaning out spam but not helping out your stupid friends which some users are doing
few eg
http://www.indianpad.com/story/311131
http://www.indianpad.com/mature_pics/313795

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indianboy   # indianboy
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

Oh Well talking about value addition and Social bookmarking, here comes my version –

Firstly, The big portals like yahoo, aol who re-publish content not only pay big bucks but also provide the source unlike most of the super blog masters here.

Secondly, I don’t think Indianpad is an exclusive platform to make money. Its a social bookmarking platform similar to digg, reddit where users share cool content which they go around finding around web. We must be very thankful to Indianpad for providing a platform which allows us to display our ads and make money along with it but a few of them form syndicates to misuse the very system to drive traffic and money.

Thirdly, Talking about value addition which the super blog masters claim, The site makes up of over 70 % Ads, Outbound links and popups with Active X malware installs unlike biggies like Yahoo! or big blogs who publish great content without such ads.

Finally, I don’t think the people who claim adding content here are actually adding value to Indianpad is just a myth. I bet those same guys who claim will stop posting once the traffic stops coming. Also considering a PR 6 site which Indianpad has add a great value in terms of Google Juice. Let that go and you’ll see a lot of super blog masters out of here.

Also, Blogging in real terms does not mean copying and pasting content. Its more of value addition, opions given and not totally of commercial consideration which lacks as most of the sites have over 70 % of web space as ads.

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remixconcepts   # remixconcepts
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

um IndianBoy AssociatedPress is FREE, yahoo and others only have to pay to the editors so they can edit their own site…and every content and headlines are shared by all of the newspapers

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cuilconcepts@yahoo.com   # cuilconcepts@yahoo.com
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

Even digg does not have this feature lolz..

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indianboy   # indianboy
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

um IndianBoy AssociatedPress is FREE, yahoo and others only have to pay to the editors so they can edit their own site…and every content and headlines are shared by all of the newspapers

I don’t think any of them get their content from AP.

Even digg does not have this feature lolz..

These sites just won’t fit or survive under digg voting and system.

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

um i think i had a comment here smewhere

is it Heisenberg or just my eyes playing with me

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ck_rish   # ck_rish
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

um i think i had a comment here smewhere
is it Heisenberg or just my eyes playing with me

So, it is just not me then… I had a comment too, which is no longer there. :-)

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niteshbhasin   # niteshbhasin
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

Well wat do u know Heisenberg’s principle works in cyberspace as well

i wonder why is it specific to this post only

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garamvideos   # garamvideos
  Posted 471 days ago. (hide)

beachbong good to see you are still here

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remixconcepts   # remixconcepts
  Posted 470 days ago. (hide)

um IndianBoy AssociatedPress is FREE, yahoo and others only have to pay to the editors so they can edit their own site…and every content and headlines are shared by all of the newspapers

I don’t think any of them get their content from AP.

wooo wooo wooo op-en up any website any news website and they will have articles from associated press and have (AP) included in the title. Okay if you have a yahoo mail account, go to yahoomail.com and then see all news is from AP.

haha IndianBoy ap is the biggest, maybe just below one organization and that is MSN, but it will eventually be the biggest, because first it is owned by Google, and second because the AssociatedPress content is being shared by so many media networks, including Forbes(one of the best respected in United States), because it is being shared by so many, people are more likely to trust that name, and the more people distribute the better for google, because google is the search engine.

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avaksi   # avaksi
  Posted 470 days ago. (hide)

Sorry as this is off-topic but remix said ‘AP is owned by Google’. dude, that is not correct…

AP is owned by its 1,500 U.S. daily newspaper members. They elect a board of directors that directs the cooperative. source

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 470 days ago. (hide)

a lot of people do this, including many leaders of IndianPad and chetanw it is my humble request do not bully anyone here because you are as equal to any other member….IndianPad, I, and its users respect you only because you have reached great karma and we all appreciate that, but I really dislike you when you abuse GVK. I think its enough, the guy has gotten the messge, and frankly he not need to get any messege from you, but you have done your part by exposing GVK’s actions here, and that is all anyone can do expect the Admin. So chill everyone, and cheanw its up to u to realize wt i said or not.

@remixconcepts,

I just voted up your comment. I agree that the comment I put there was hitting below the belt, so I apologize. However, I’m not trying to bully user @gvk.

I was just teasing him a bit. Isn’t that better than sneakily voting his stories as lame? I ask because that’s I see being done to me. But anyway, let bygones be bygones. I’m really quite liberal actually; I usually do not ban sites or disable stories – merely mark them lame. In fact, I often vote up content from user @gvk if it is good.

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remixconcepts   # remixconcepts
  Posted 469 days ago. (hide)

@ avaksi ap.google.com is Associatedpress official site, so therefore I thought it is owned by google.
and under every article it says hosted by google
so i donno

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