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Have Your Say!! Should Users be Allowed to Promote Stories Through Self Commenting?

The whole system of Indianpad is being manipulated by a few users who are commenting on their own stories to grab attention. If the story is good, I am sure it will make it to the front page eventually, so no need of malpractice there. Also if every poster comments on his story it will be treated as SPAM, so why any different now. I want admins to ban any story that we notice, is being self promoted by commenting and then ban the user who does not improve on this. We should to set a benchmark regarding commenting on ones own stories, every user thinks his story deserves votes, because it is good according to him.

The bottom line of all this is, there are no short cuts…we cannot say any exceptional story that is going to the bottom can be commented on by the poster cause the definition of exceptional varies from one person to another. So its either all users should be free to indulge in story promotion through commenting or no one will be allowed under any circumstance…just to put the point through, I am talking about the future, not the past…

Do you guys agree with me? Do let me know…and btw, I am open to any result, all I am asking is that all be treated in the same way and a benchmark be set for Indianpad for Admins and users to follow…

Have your say…


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bollymms.com   # bollymms.com
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

Your point is valid, though i think if there are stories which are good like this there is no harm in letting user comment under it.

Indianpad does not have recommend feature and we all know stories with comments get some kind of attention, maybe if a user starts commenting under each of his stories and they are not worth it, we can classify that as spam.

I don’t think u can make rules tolly, just cause u have 14+ karma, not unless indianpad specify that this is a wrong practice.

Well how difficult its for IP to stop users from being the first one to comment under their own story, so that’s a practical solution.. not the one u suggested where you decide who is right and who is wrong… i disagree :-P

Again, lots of good stories gets missed unless someone comments under them.. so either we have some recommend feature or let users comment under good posts they create..

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

I want to set a benchmark

there are a hundred of examples where these benchmarks will fail for some users… I think there are many times that its been pointed out… usual things are neglected for some users… dont make me point out specifically…
maybe if a user starts commenting under each of his stories and they are not worth it, we can classify that as spam.

ditto…

this is what happens to good stories if not commented under…
http://www.indianpad.com/celebrity/350344/selena-quintanilla-perez-tejano-music-star-facts-life-n-death/
I compiled this and see the number of voted it got… 1… huh !

I DONT COMMENT ON EVERY STORY OR ONLY ON STORIES FROM DHM... I COMMENT ON STORIES THAT I THINK SHOULD NOT BE MISSED IN PLACE OF SHITTY STORIES FROM REDIFF INDIATIMES AND IBNLIVE...
eg: http://www.indianpad.com/sites/351428/new-creative-art-blogger-template/

INDIANPAD DESERVES SUBMITTERS LIKE YOU ME DRWIZ AVAKSI BOLLY DEVIL SPENCER WHO BRING IN STORIES from different parts and not just news portals…

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ck_rish   # ck_rish
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

INDIANPAD DESERVES SUBMITTERS LIKE YOU ME DRWIZ AVAKSI BOLLY DEVIL SPENCER WHO BRING IN STORIES from different parts and not just news portals…

That was a “below the belt “ statement. I do not consider myself to be a user who brings in stories. So, according to your statement, IndianPad does not deserve submitters like me, right?

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

lol ck bhaji… aap bhi in…
complementry gift ;)

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

Do you guys agree with me? Do let me know…and btw, I am open to any result, all I am asking is that all be treated in the same way and a benchmark be set for Indianpad for Admins and users to follow…

I am not the one deciding anything here, I want everyone to make a clear and collective decision

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kaalkaal   # kaalkaal
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

why doesn’t the admin just remove the option of commenting on your own story until someone else leaves a comment. Then we can reply to that comment.

anyways, i seriously don’t think this is a major issue. If you wanna comment then comment. People will mark down your comments if they are useless. A lot of times good stories don’t get noticed at all and this happens at all bookmarking sites and not just IndianPad.

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

and marking this story IRRELEVANT will not do any good…

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

why doesn’t the admin just remove the option of commenting on your own story until someone else leaves a comment

Wow…how brilliant is that, I like that Idea, something for Indianpad to take note probably….

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ck_rish   # ck_rish
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

lol ck bhaji… aap bhi in… complementry gift ;)

Nahi dost… It is not a matter of me being in the deserved/un-deserved list. My point is we don’t want to create that divide here. I hope you understand.

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ck_rish   # ck_rish
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

A lot of times good stories don’t get noticed at all and this happens at all bookmarking sites and not just IndianPad

Well-said kaalkaal.

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

lol… aap congress mein to nahi hai ch bhaji… where did this divide thing come from… that was just a comment…
I get it … cheers !

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

and marking this story IRRELEVANT will not do any good…

sorry tolly I did it by MISTAKE... actually wanted to mark it SPAM :-P

why doesn’t the admin just remove the option of commenting on your own story until someone else leaves a comment

I see future now … or is this the night that is falling… I predict over 70% rise in the comment rate then :-P

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indianboy   # indianboy
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

I don’t think that will change anything as you’ll end up with commentin’ syndicates which has already somewhere started like the organised voting syndicates. So let the users do wat they want as its a democracy.

Off topic but why does it take ages for Indianpad to load? Am i the only one?

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

sorry tolly I did it by MISTAKE... actually wanted to mark it SPAM :-P

That is just not funny…you are such a low life…anyway I feel pity for you, I would not blame you for that behavior…

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

So let the users do wat they want as its a democracy.

Good to at least one person knows what he wants, if we can stick with this I will be happy…

AND WHY DOES NO ONE WANT TO VOTE FOR THIS STORY, THIS STORY IS ONLY ABOUT MAKING IP A BETTER PLACE

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

I want admins to ban any story that we notice, is being self promoted by commenting and then ban the user who does not improve on this

democracy…

some wants to modify it to TollyCracy in TollyPad

PS: dont mind this tolly… your are being targetted coz you started targetting… man…

BE AND LET BE… IS THE KEY

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

you are such a low life…anyway I feel pity for you

pity… thanks yar … then do one thing to keep this feeling going…

take a glass of milk + 5 badaams
close your eyes
start voting for my stories

I will also feel pity with you for me till then.

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

TollyCracy

These kind of words just go on to prove that you are an immature, hasty, big mouthed person…all I am asking is to decide if…

1. Don’t comment on own story
2. Can comment on own story

I am more than happy to accept either…

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kaalkaal   # kaalkaal
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

1. I voted for this story.
2. I will go with democracy
3. Why do I see users fighting here at indianpad so much. It seems like this site is more about who submits what rather than what actually gets submitted.
4. @indianboy – yeah man it takes a lot of time for indianpad to load these days.

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

I still see that you stick to your angry behaviour today and have not voted for
http://www.indianpad.com/general_ent/352154/ramayana-3392-a.d-reloaded-video-pictures-comic-series/

Its cool man… if you think that commenting on own story is wrong. It be.
Respecting your senior profile and age… There I stop.
No more comments from me on IndianPad >> this was the last ;)

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

Its cool man… if you think that commenting on own story is wrong. It be.

That is what you don’t understand…this is not about you…if we agree on one thing here, I will also start commenting on my stories…but I only want a clear guideline for all to follow, so in the future fingers are not pointed and the rule is same for all Indianpad users..

but if everyone decides that its the other way, I will ban stories that are commented upon by the poster…

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indianboy   # indianboy
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

I am just not able to vote for anything. I guess my connection or browser sucks big time.

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

What’s all the fuss about? Do users vote on a story based on who has commented on it? If they do, then that’s not right, in my opinion.

I’m not voting on something based on the comments – that’s it. I might vote the comment up or down or add my own comment.

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

What’s all the fuss about?

1. Can’t comment on own story
2. Can comment on own story

Voting or not voting is your choice like you said, I am trying to address the issue of poster commenting on own story to seek attention

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 42 days ago. (hide)

I understand Tolly. But why would a user want to do that to gain attention?

I know some users do that all the time. I sometimes do visit the story but most of the time, I don’t vote (based on the description itself). For such stories, I rarely end up visiting the original link anyway.

If you ask me to make a choice, I’d say let a user comment on his own story, as long as it’s not comment #1.

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amiable_indian   # amiable_indian
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

Here’s my suggestion …

  • Why do people comment on their own stories ?
  • So that it shows up on all pages on the right column ( see image )
  • So, why not make a general rule for everyone that any comment on our own story doesn’t show on recent-comments section
    • Or have only show comments which have more than 1+ votes on it
  • This way even if someone put 10 comments on his own story, it wont scam the system for promoting it to first page
  • Its still democratic enough, as you can comment – if you think you have something to add to your own story.
    • Eg… during Delhi Blast, i probably commented on my own story adding new information coming over the news and keeping it up2date.
    • Same could be reason for adding comment to Final Match between India Australia where you want to update other viewers with scores etc….
    • However, the system wont let you scam the right-column and show only your comments ( if you submit 10 comments in few minutes )

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kaalkaal   # kaalkaal
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

@amiable_indian – that was my comment on my own story and it was as a response to avaksi’s comment. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. Avaksi liked the story, he commented. I liked his comment and I felt like responding.

btw why don’t we just remove the Recent Comments feature from the homepage? We already have a link on the top to see all the comments. I really don’t think this is necessary but if you think that it’s not right to comment on your own story then i think this will be a great step.

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amiable_indian   # amiable_indian
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

kaalkaal, i was not pointing to your comment … i was just suggesting that we should make change in the recent-comment block which shows up on the right side …

arrow pointing ... was not intended :-)

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kaalkaal   # kaalkaal
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

oh ok…i misunderstood you. I did notice that you voted for that story…haha

anyways, i guess we can just remove the box from appearing on the main pages.

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remixconcepts   # remixconcepts
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

No I think users shouldn’t promote their stories through comments, unless its a news article they want to add their own say so upon. Also everyone finds their submission legit, that is the reason they submit it right. Just look at Pushpinder, he finds everything he submits legit and promotes it in anyway possible, and I don’t blame him, he got this I-Pad thing right down in their and is real effective here. And if that happens, IndianPad will have one too many comments. Similar to Rambhai, rambhai’s comment area is more like Twitter of what stories which user is reading. So I think no one should comment on their own stories, but should messege to other users regarding the story and they should comment upon the story they vote because it gets them karma if the story happens to make it to the front page.

And Tollywood, I love your submissions and everything but you just make some real stupid bummers here and there. Why should anyone have the right to take off my story? IndianPad doesn’t make me sign anything saying I can’t promote a story on IndianPad, which is actually helping IndianPad and is the point of IndianPad. And it is a FREE WORLD you can’t just peel off the things you consider to be wrong. Its a DUMB DUMB world.

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drwiz   # drwiz
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

I’d say a big NO to self promotion. But I guess its ok if the story is really worth getting some attention.

So, why not make a general rule for everyone that any comment on our own story doesn’t show on recent-comments section
Best suggestion.

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bollymms.com   # bollymms.com
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

Well how difficult its for IP to stop users from being the first one to comment under their own story, so that’s a practical solution..

Looks like people missed or didn’t read my comment :-)

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TollywoodBollywood   # TollywoodBollywood
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

Amiable’s suggestion is the best solution…Remix, you don’t get it dude, think harder and read the post slowly…

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devilsworkshop   # devilsworkshop
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

Recommend Stories – By Users – Everything should be open and public. And the best solution IMO.

A New sidebar widget ‘Recommended Stories‘ will show


devilsworkshop recommended 3 stories to indianboy

ckrish recommended 1 story to tollywoodbollywood

amiable_indian recommended 2 stories to indianboy

(arrow down will show the name of the stories as shown in similar stories drop-down)

I want recommendations so i favor the comments on posts by authors or any one. If you guys are not happy with that, i think my solution should solve your and my problem the same time.

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devilsworkshop   # devilsworkshop
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

A better way

devilsworkshop recommends 3 stories

ckrish recommends 1 story

amiable_indian recommends 2 stories

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

recommended stories thing sucks…
who cares who recommeneded what to whom … lolz…
people just want the best content… only 40% of these 14-15 people involved here actually will use that thing… other 80% of total users that come here from search or other things would not even use such a thing…

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

kaalkaal said

anyways, i seriously don’t think this is a major issue. If you wanna comment then comment. People will mark down your comments if they are useless. A lot of times good stories don’t get noticed at all and this happens at all bookmarking sites and not just IndianPad.

I absolutly agree. No system is foolproof. The best things in life are not always the most popular. An excellent example in our constitution, which gives everyone one equal vote – but look at what we elect every time.

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

all this started coz I commented on my story… wow

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

And because Tolly feels that The whole system of Indianpad is being manipulated by a few users who are commenting on their own stories to grab attention.

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bollymms.com   # bollymms.com
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

lolz, i dont get all the fuss, only 20 active users and they keep on fighting whole day about why other is getting an advantage..

lolz proper CRAP !!

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

big PP for ChetanW

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chetanw   # chetanw
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

Not to mention the crappy comments being added!!

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bollymms.com   # bollymms.com
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

i would say very big PP…

LMAO pata nahi isdi bund wich kehda keeda wadiya hoiya… 24 ghantey taye taye taye…

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pushpinderbagga   # pushpinderbagga
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

seems like to stop chetan I should submit story from timesofindia… then this BDL willl keep busy in that… :-P

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bollymms.com   # bollymms.com
  Posted 41 days ago. (hide)

LMAO

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